switching from liquid Procion H dyes to vinyl sulfone dyes


Name: Tamma
Message: I am having to switch from the liquid Procion H dyes to the vinyl sulfone dyes.  Do you have any information about how the two compare.  Dilution, steam time, same chemical water formulas, etc.  I love the liquid procion H dyes, but my supplier is discontinuing them.
Thanks.

Jacquard Products is discontinuing their Procion H dyes because their supplier no longer makes them. I believe that there are other dye factories left in the world which still make Procion H type dyes and/or Procion H-E type dyes. You might be able to continue to buy Procion H dyes from a different dye supplier, such as PRO Chemical & Dye or G&S Dye. However, the concentrations and the dye selection will be different from a different supplier. See my page on Procion H dyes. Liquid Remazol Rayon Dress

I really like the vinyl sulfone dyes, myself. These are the same as the Remazol dyes you may have read about. The most economical source for vinyl sulfone dyes is PRO Chemical & Dye, whose liquid vinyl sulfone dyes are the most concentrated that you can buy. I have happily used the ProChem Liquid Reactive dyes, as well as the Jacquard Products Red Label Silk Colors, which are a line of vinyl sulfone dyes that they have sold for many years, but I have done more low water immersion dyeing with them than silk painting. (The picture to the right shows an intensely colored dress that I dyed with Remazol dyes in low water immersion.) ProChem's Liquid Reactive Remazol Dyes are four times as concentrated as Jacquard Red Label Silk Colors. I do not know whether the new Jacquard Products "Vinyl Sulphon" dyes are the same strength as their Red Label Silk Colors. For a great deal of information about vinyl sulfone dyes, see my page "Vinyl Sulfone Fiber Reactive Dyes".

Dharma Trading Company says that the Jacquard Vinyl Sulphon dye line is used at the same concentrations as the old Jacquard Procion H dyes, so you should dilute it the same as you are used to doing. It is steamed for the same amount of time and can be intermixed with the Procion H dyes you still have.  You should do a test piece before using these dyes on any large or important project, because every dye line is a little different. The colors will be slightly different, and your results might be a little different. I think that you will find them to be satisfactory. Try your usual procedure that you use for Procion H dyes, but don't spend a lot of time on the artistic design of this test piece.  

Below are the instructions for the Jacquard Vinyl Sulphon dyes, from the Dharma web site....

Primaries: Bright Yellow, Magenta, Turquoise, Black

"Instructions:

"ON SILK AND COTTON (or other natural fibers):

"To use this dye, you would normally dilute the concentrated dye with chemical water (also use water softener if you have hard water) to the strength of color you desire. To make chemical water, dissolve 1 cup of Urea in 1 quart of hot water. If thickening is desired, (as with screen printing) use Sodium Alginate. Sprinkle 1/2 to 1-1/2 teaspoons into chemical water, depending on thickness desired, then stir constantly until smooth. Let the mixture stand for up to 1 hour to thicken. You can store the mixture refrigerated for weeks.

"Or, instead of making your own chemical water, use our Print Base Kit to which you just add water, and a tablespoon of baking soda if necessary (**see below). Please note, the Print Base kits do contain Sodium Alginate, which thickens the solution for printing and painting applications.

"To dilute the dye, use 2 parts chemical water to 1 part concentrate for very deep shades, 10 to 1 for less vibrant colors. Paint, print or apply to fabric. To fix, let the fabric dry thoroughly, then steam in a steamer 30-45 minutes for silk, longer for thicker fabrics (up to an hour). Some folks have even experimented with microwaving as an alternative to steaming, for small pieces, especially with tie-dye or scrunch dye effects. Rinse under running tepid water until the water runs clear, and then wash in hot water and Synthrapol or our Professional Textile Detergent.

"**Sometimes when steaming, the fabric does not get hot enough, or isn’t steamed for long enough, causing less dye to fix to the fabric and wash out. In this case, adding baking soda to your chemical water, 1 Tablespoon per quart of chemical water, can aid in fixing the dye, giving deeper shades of color.

"Some folks have said they dilute the dyes with just water. Depending on the circumstances, we feel the dyes are not going to reach their full potential, but you will get color. It is up to you.

"ON COTTON (or Rayon, other cellulose fibers):

"If you don't want to steam, or can't, you can use Soda Ash Fixer as a direct substitute for the baking soda in the chemical water instructions above and cure the fabric damp just like you do the powdered Fiber Reactive dyes - 12-24 hours. Rinse and wash out as above. We don't think Vinyl Sulphon dyes come out as brilliantly on cotton as powered Fiber Reactive Procion MX dyes, but it is a great alternative for folks who can't or don't want to work with powders.

"ON RAYON/SILK VELVET or OTHER DEVORE FABRICS:

"Follow any of the instructions above. The advantage of Vinyl Sulphon dyes on these types of protein/cellulose fabric blends is that it will dye both types of fibers the same color, which is not always the case with Fiber Reactive MX dyes. Acid dye will only dye the silk and barely stain the Rayon.

"Storing dye stock solutions

Dye and chemical water (leave out the alginate thickener and baking soda for longest storage!) can be stored in a cool, dark place for up to a few months. Thickened chemical water, or dye solution can last for about 3-4 weeks if stored in a cold, dry location.

"Color Mixing Guidelines

"All the Jacquard Vinyl Sulphon Dye colors can be mixed together to create other colors and shades. In order to reproduce exact colors, careful notes need to be kept on precise amounts used. We encourage you to take the time to test sample color mixtures before starting a large-scale project so you can gain a better understanding of how the colors react when mixed together."

[See Jacquard Vinyl Sulphon Dyes at Dharma Trading Company.]


I would like to know what you think of these dyes after you try them.

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Posted: Wednesday - August 13, 2008 at 07:28 PM          

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