Category Archives: dyeing polyester

Will hair dye developer make it possible to dye polyester with Rit dye?

Name: Irene
Country or region: United Kingdom
Message: Hello, I researched using rit dyes for dying polyester and it says that one thing required to add to dye bath is dye developer. I googled this and nothing comes up, except for hair products. Do you know if this is commonly used for polyester dying and where it can be found? thanks

There is nothing that will work to fix Rit dye on polyester. Rit All-Purpose Dye simply cannot be used to dye polyester! It can be used to dye cotton, silk, rayon, and nylon, but never polyester, no matter what chemical, fixative, or dye developer you try to add. Hair dyeing products will not help in dyeing polyester, regardless of what type of dye you use.

Polyester cannot be dyed with any dye that works on natural fibers. If a dye can be used to dye cotton, silk, or wool, then it will not work for polyester. The only type of dye that will work on polyester is a class of dyes that is named “disperse dye”. (See my page, Dyeing Polyester with Disperse Dyes.) Sometimes you will see disperse dye being sold under the name “transfer dye”, because disperse dyes can be used to make designs on paper that are then transferred to polyester by pressing with a hot iron.

To find a company that will sell you disperse dye in the UK, take a look at my page, “Sources for Dyeing Supplies Around the World“. You can order disperse dyes online in the UK from George Weil, Kemtex Educational Supplies, Omega Dyes, and Rainbow Silks.

A dye carrier that is sold by some dye suppliers for use with disperse dyes can be used to make the colors of disperse dye more intense. This is available under different names, but only from textile dye suppliers. IDye Poly, a brand of disperse dye marketed in many different countries by Jacquard Products, comes with a dye carrier included in a separate packet within the package of dye; PRO Chemical & Dye, a dye supplier in the US, sells a chemical called Dye Carrier NSC for this purpose.

Dyeing polyester requires extensive application of high heat. In addition to the special polyester dye, if you will be immersion dyeing fabric or clothing, you will also need a large non-reactive cooking pot, one which you plan never to use again for food. The pot must be large enough for the material you’re dyeing to move about freely in the boiling water. By non-reactive”, I mean a stainless steel pot, or an enamel pot with no chips in the inner lining. Do not buy an aluminum or cast iron pot for dyeing polyester.

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I’m looking to have 2 bridesmaid dresses that were ordered online dyed burgundy. The color they are now is red.

Name: Diane
Country or region: Toronto
Message: Hi, I’m looking to have 2 bridesmaid dresses that were ordered online dyed burgundy. The color they are now is red. If you are in the GTA area and are able to do this it would be great, my sister’s wedding is at the end of the month and I either have to get them dyed or buy new ones.

I’m sorry, but it is very unlikely that you will be able to get these dresses redyed. The dresses are probably not washable, let alone piece-dyeable. They are probably made of polyester, which is a major pain to dye, unlike natural fibers such as silk. Dyeing them would require an enormous dyeing pot. It would also require a large amount of boiling, which might damage the dresses.

The best answer is to buy dresses that are already in the color you want, or, less commonly, to buy a ready-to-dye dress in an easily dyeable fiber such as cotton or silk. Buying dresses online, sight-unseen, should never be done when it is critical that the exact right color be obtained. Local bridal supply shops may seem to overcharge, but buying dresses of a color you don’t want doesn’t end up saving you any money.

The five dyers listed at the top of my “Find a Custom Dyer” page will not dye a polyester dress from one shade of red to another. Most refuse to dye polyester at all. Some will dye white polyester garments to another color, but will not dye polyester of any other color.

This sad situation is not uncommon. I answered a very similar question in my blog in 2007, “I made the mistake of buying my bridesmaid dresses on-line. They are a red burgundy and I was shooting for a deeper color, more of a wine or egg plant color. The fabric is polyester satin. What can I use to dye this?“. There was no good place to get the dresses dyed then, either.

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Can you suggest a dye fixative for a dye bleeding problem with a black and white polyester dress?

Hello and thank you for all the helpful information you provide on your blog.

Can you suggest a dye fixative product I might try for a dye bleeding problem I have with a black and white (color-block style) polyester dress I recently purchased? Background: I bought the dress and machine washed it as specified, but ended up with the white turning gray-ish. Fortunately, I was able to exchange it and get another, but I want to “fix” the dye prior to washing to avoid the white turning to gray on the new dress. Unfortunately, I don’t know what type of dye was used to dye the fabric so I am unsure as to what fixative might work; the dress is an inexpensive dress so the dye used is likely inexpensive as well. Is Retayne a product that might work? Or Synthrapol? Something else? Also, would either product work in cold/cool water (I believe using warm/hot water is only going to exacerbate the white to gray bleeding problem)?

Thank you.

I’m afraid there is no fixative that you can use on a polyester dye.

We do know the general kind of dye that was used to dye your dress, because it is made of polyester. The only kind of dye that works on polyester is disperse dye. (See my page, Dyeing Polyester with Disperse Dyes.) Disperse dye does not bond directly to polyester, chemically; instead, it more-or-less dissolves into it.

We don’t know exactly which disperse dye was used for your dress, but we can guess that either it is a less-washfast type of disperse dye, or that some steps may have been skimped on in manufacture. Some disperse dyes are described as being high-energy, while others are medium- or low-energy. Higher-energy disperse dyes require more heat to move within the fiber, and as a result are likely to be more washfast in hot water, though they are less suitable for use as transfer dyes. Proper dye application is important, too; in commercial dyeing, loosely bound disperse dye on the surface of the polyester is removed by a process called reduction clearing. Perhaps something went wrong there. Not all disperse dyes stain when they run; some disperse dyes tend to turn into colorless compounds when they migrate out of the fiber, under the weak alkaline conditions of most laundry detergents, resulting in far less trouble with staining. None of these are factors that we can control now. They are only reasons to speculate about, when wondering why some dyed polyesters are more washfast than others, as supplied by the manufacturers.

Retatyne is a cationic dye fixative. It works by using its positive molecular charge to “glue” negatively-charged dye particles to negatively-charged textile fibers. Its best use is to make direct dye, as well as all-purpose dye (which contains direct dye), attach more permanently to cotton and other cellulose fibers. Without Retayne or another cationic dye fixative, all-purpose and direct dyes bleed badly whenever they are washed, often ruining other clothing if the colors are not washed separately, and they tend to fade quickly as a result. However, in contrast to cotton dyes, disperse dyes do not have an overall molecular charge, positive or negative, so a charged molecule like Retayne will not have any effect on them.

Synthrapol is a detergent, which means that it can help to suspend oily particles in water. It’s nice for dyeing because it is free of added dyes, perfumes, and other additives, and because it has a neutral pH. Most laundry detergents have a high pH, but, since high pH is effective in helping to fix fiber reactive dyes, and also since high pH tends to be damaging to protein fibers such as wool and silk, using a detergent with a neutral pH avoids complications. It also avoids problems in discoloring cyanotype-printed fabrics, since it is free of the phosphates that are found in many laundry detergent formulations. None of these valuable qualities of Synthrapol will make it any more useful than any other detergent at removing excess dye from your dress.

(You are right to wonder about whether Retayne or Synthrapol can be used in cold water. Both should be used in hot water. Retayne requires hot water in order to be applied, and using any detergent to wash out dye works best in hot water, since hot water is better at removing dye even without detergent. Not that it matters in this case, since neither will help, anyway.)

If you had a solid black dress, you might find that washing, especially in hot water, would be helpful at ridding it of excess dye. Black dyes of any class are more difficult to wash thoroughly enough to get all loose dye out, because more dye must be used, no matter what type of dye it is, to make a good deep black. Lighter colors are obtained with smaller amounts of dye, so there is not nearly as much excess dye to wash out. The fact that your dress is a mixture of black and white means that it is too late to try to wash out excess dye. Anything you do to remove excess dye from the black parts of your dress will endanger the white parts. The excess dye should have been removed before the dress was ever assembled.

It is possible that your new dress might have been made in a new batch, with better dye than the previous one, or with better dyeing techniques, but I would be afraid to assume so. It seems unlikely.

Perhaps you should refrain from washing the new dress at all, and have it dry-cleaned, instead. Many dyes that run in water washing will stay put in solvent cleaning. There is no guarantee that you won’t have the same problem of dye running with dry cleaning that you had with water washing, but it is something to try.

If you used warm water when you washed the first dress, whose dyes ran, then you might be okay with instead washing only in cold water. Dyes in general run more in hotter water than in cooler water, because heat reduces the property of dyes called substantivity, which is their tendency to associate with the fiber. This is why we are careful to wash less-washfast dyes only in cold water. The same dye that may be almost washed out in hot water may stay put for quite a long time if washed only in cold water.

If the dye in the second dress runs even if only dry-cleaned, or if only washed in cold water, whichever you are willing to do, then the dress is hopeless. There’s nothing else you can do at home to keep a non-washfast disperse dye application from running.

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