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Sorry to start a new topic, but in replying to the other thread I can't seem to find the "attachment" option.

Is the Dylon Permanent #12 that is supposed to be good for discharging the same as Dylon Permanent Velvet?

I dyed 8mm habotai with it, tied it into a 16pt mandala and it would NOT discharge. I painted thiox onto separate sections of the mandala, then steamed it for nearly an hour - nothing.

THEN, I put Jacquard discharge paste on it and ironed it, and nothing.

Is this the wrong discharge dye? Or should I be ironing when I'm steaming and visa versa? Not holding my mouth right?

Thanks!
Kate

Dharma's directions for their discharge powder (thiourea dioxide) involve boiling 2 gallons of water on the stove. Does anyone know if it's possible to use it in the washing machine with regular hot water? I'm not sure what temperature is actually required for the reaction.

Has anyone tried a clorox bleach pen to remove red dye specks? I haven't had a problem with those specks for a long time but for some reason got just a few this time. Maybe my filter slipped as I was filtering dye or something. They are annoying the heck out of me, though. They are on a light grey to medium grey gradation (cotton/linen blend) and they are all on the light part of the gradation. Not very many..just a few here and there, so it's not like it would be a very daunting task to put a little speck of bleach pen on each one. But I've never used those pens... worth trying it? I wouldn't mind overdying the light grey again to hide any white spots.. I doubt overdying would cover the red specks. I'm not going to strip it at this point because I have no idea what grey strips to and it could be much worse than red specks. Oh, and would I need to neutralize it afterwards?

This is prpbably question for Paula

Yesterday in my textile print classes we did discharge with Bruggolite. It was thickened, we did screen printing with it.
Instructions were to let the fabrics dry and then iron it for the reaction to occur.
Well, it worked, but fumes released during ironing were very unpleasant for lungs and for eyes. I think it was not very safe way how to do it. What is proper way how to handle this chemical?
I've found MSDS just for powder form, but heat causes decomposition, so it must be different.

And I also wonder how fabrics should be treated afterwards - it's not easy to get rid of it, fabrics smells even after full washing cycle (40C).

The original plan was to dye cotton t-shirts MX-2G blue in the washing machine, then pole wrap arashi shibori style, and overdye with a dark magenta. I was concerned about the t-shirts not dyeing a deep enough shade - instead they came out a lovely, uniform dark shade. Much darker than I expected.

My plan now is to discharge with household bleach after pole wrapping. I've read several postings which indicate that the MX-2G will discharge well with bleach. I plan to paint on the bleach, then rinse in a couple of changes of water, soak in AntiClor for a few minutes, and rinse in water.

The overall question is how do I apply color after the bleach?

Can a shirt that is part spandex be discharge dyed?

I have been asked to do some designs on yoga clothing and they want spandex because it has memory and doesn't get baggy.
The shirts I am looking at are 5-20 percent spandex.

I can always run a test but if anyone has experience with this it would sure save me some time.

Thank you

Jacque

www.jacquedavis.com

Paula

In one of your information sheets on discharge you mention some non dishargable dyes and heck if I can find it now. Could you list dyes that will not discharge, fully discharge and dischare to other colors, please?

Herb

I have been making tee shirts that are discharged with my own designs and want to add color to them at the same time I apply the discharge paste. It seems UK dyers have the acid dyes but I am wondering if there are acid dyes available in the US that I could use.

I would appreciate any information anyone has.

Jacque Davis

http://www.jacquedavis.com

I WORK WITH HAIR EXTENSIONS, HUMAN HAIR. I HAVE TRIED TO DISCHARGE NATURAL PIGMENTATION FROM HAIR BULKS, USING THE METHODS FOR DISCHARGING FUR AND WOOL, PEROXIDE AND AMMONIA. ...

Yesterday I did a newborn onesie with LWI and it came out SOOOOO great - except for the tiny speckles of fushcia right in the middle of the chest! (Note to self: shake Jacquard's Navy Blue THREE times as long as you think you need, not TWICE as long....) The specks aren't too visible in this cell phone pic, but you can get the idea.
http://flickr.com/photos/generationstiedye/2973355472/ Definitely enough to put a kink in the "Baby Boy" idea I had going there. LOL

I have some discharge paste somewhere (got it 2 months or so ago, so not too old) and was wondering if that would be able to take off the specks.

Hi, I'm new to fabric dying although I have use procion dyes with kids in the past. I have used fabric paints a lot.

My church has an upcoming holiday fair. They want me to use a discharge method on black 100% cotton. I think they want fairly precise discharge lines such as in text.

Can I use 1" letter stencils and get reasonably legible text on black? I know there is no knowing the final discharge color. I'm ok with that.

How precise is the bleach method? Is there another tool which I can use to make small lines and swirls look good? I have thought about the clorox pen. That may be too precise. Yes? No?

I'm getting ready to do a little project which involves blue MX on cotton. I know some blues don't discharge, which I need to do on this project (Thiox). So I checked my own records and Paula's (which MX dyes discharge best). It looks like ProChem 406/Dharma's Cerulean discharges to almost white. But I have notes and samples showing ProChem 406 ("Intense Blue") not discharging on *silk*. When I use MX on silk, I use them as acid dyes. With the cotton, I'll be using soda ash, of course. Is that possible chemically? To put a dye on cotton with soda ash and it will discharge, but that same dye on silk with acid process wouldn't? What's going on chemically?

I was wondering what type of dyes you use to do mudmee tie dying. I really like the colors but I can't get those with my procion mx reactive dyes. I really need a how to guide like on DVD or in a book. If anyone knows where to find a how to guide or has any information on how to do this, please let me know. If you don't know what mudmee is I'm talking about the kind of stuff they do on thaidye.com
Thanks for your help.

I am hoping to remove some color from silk fabric by painting on Rit color remover. I read in Dharma's instructions that one can do this using a steam iron, but am not clear exactly what to do. Has anybody tried it? I can't use the pot method because I don't want an even color, I want something mottled, or a pattern, if possible, but do I have to do this outside? How can I tell whether enough dye has gone if I have to keep the material covered with paper towels? Or should I use paper towels at all, instead of a pressing cloth?
I will be grateful for any step by step instructions.

Hi, I'm new to the forums here and am interested in learning about discharge dyeing methods, and a lot of what I've been reading on here specifically about chlorine based products in reference to discharge has left me scratching my head. Somebody has some misconceptions about the stuff, and I don't know if it's me or someone else, but I'd like to discuss it to see if I can figure out.

I've been using chlorine for a very long time in a lot of different applications. Housecleaning, sanitizing, laundry, the typical domestic applications, but I am most frequently exposed to the chemical through pool maintenance. I have taken the time to study the rudimentary chemistry involved with pool maintenence, and several of the chemicals involved in that process carry over to textile dyeing, like chlorine and soda ash.

I dyed some 50% Merino/50% Silk yarn using Landscape Acid Dyes but now I want to strip the dye out so I can re-dye another colour, is this possible?

What should I use, what should I be aware of & what is the most effective way of going about it?

Thanks for your help.
Katie

My online Threads magazine newsletter has, front and center, an article on discharging with bleach. Hope this link works for everybody.

An excerpt:

"There is a variety of ways to remove color (the technical term is discharge) from dyed fabric, but for controlled results on all kinds of fabric you generally need lots of experience and testing, plus some highly toxic chemicals. I find it much safer, and certainly a lot more fun, to simply experiment with the less-predictable but still compelling effects of applying ordinary hou

The artwork in this tutorial about stenciling with bleach (and in the follow-up postings) is worth looking at, though some of the recommendations for methods are rather ill-advised.

Apparently the artist sprays undiluted bleach onto 50% cotton/50% polyester shirts, lets it dry, does not neutralize the bleach in any way, and tumbles the shirts in the dryer to remove what he describes as crystals of bleach, before washing. It would

I was perusing Batik Oetoro's web site and found this on their Procion page (www.dyeman.com/Procion.html) about Fast Black K salt (Brentamine-K):

"Applied over any fibre reactive dye (Drimarene-K, Procion, Levafix or Remazol ) will instantly changes the colour of the reactive dye example ; Blue to Black, Emerald to Dark Green, Yellow to Brown etc.etc.... use 5g/litre ... Brenthamin-K can be dip dyed, sprayed or applied with brush."

Until now, I've only seen reference to Brentamine K for use with Naphthol dyes. Has anyone tried using it for discharge with dichlorotriazine dyes?