comparison of dye costs

I thought it would be interesting to compare the prices for different types and brands of dyes. You cannot simply compare the price per ounce, since some dyes are so much stronger than others. To make a fair comparison, I took the amount of dye recommended, for each dye type, to dye one pound of fabric or yarn to a medium shade, and divided it into the cost of that dye from various sources. For dyes that cost different amounts for the different colors, I averaged together the prices of the three main primary colors. Prices for the same types of dye varied considerably from one distributer to another, especially between different countries.

The table below is sorted by the cost of enough dye to color one pound of fiber/fabric. The cost of Procion MX dyes varies from 40 cents per pound of fiber to $2.47! Direct dye is much cheaper than Procion MX dyes (but does not perform nearly as well). Procion MX dyes are considerably cheaper than other types of fiber reactive dyes, when purchased in jars of at least 2 ounces of dye. Lanaset dye, a high quality wool dye that is rather expensive, is considerably cheaper per pound of wool dyed than all-purpose dye such as Rit. The wide variety of prices for the same dyes in different locations is surprising...

The sources of dyes in the table below are in the US when not otherwise indicated. All prices are given in US dollars. The small quantities of dyes that artists use seem to be much cheaper in the US than in most other countries. In some cases the price differential is so large that it may be cheaper to pay overseas postage from the US rather than buying locally. (I know that Synthesia in the Czech Republic is cheaper than the other European sources I know, but they don't have price quotes on their web site, and they sell only one-kilo quantities and larger.)

The prices for the natural dyes in the table below are overestimates because I was using the weight recommended for a deep shade, whereas the other dyes are adjusted for the amount required for a medium shade, and the Rit dyes for a "pale to medium" shade.



dye type and source cost to dye one pound
Direct (Dharma Industrial, 1 lb) $0.06
Direct (Prochem Diazol, 2 oz) $0.22
Kiton Acid (ProChem, 2 oz) $0.39
Procion MX (Jacquard, 8 oz) $0.40
Procion MX (ProChem, 8 oz jars) $0.44
Disperse dyes for synthetics (ProChem, 2 oz)              $0.44
Procion MX (Dharma, 8 oz) $0.46
Washfast Acid (ProChem, 60 g jars) $0.55
Procion MX (Dharma, 2 oz) $0.56
Procion MX (Best Dyes, 2 oz) $0.56
Procion MX (ProChem, 2 oz) $0.65
Procion H powder (ProChem, 2 oz) $0.82
Lanaset (ProChem, 2 oz) $0.88
Sabracron F (ProChem, 2 oz) $0.92
Lanaset (Sheep Hollow, 14 g) $0.98
Procion MX (Jacquard, 2/3 oz) $1.29
Lanaset (Telana) (Maiwa, Canada, 30 g) $1.34
Procion MX (Batik Oetoro, Australia) $1.34
Procion MX (G&S Dye, Canada, 25 g) $1.39
Procion MX (Maiwa, Canada, 30 g) $1.40
Jacquard Acid (avg of sun yellow, pink, and royal blue) (Dharma, 8 oz jars) $1.41
Procion MX (Quilt & Textilekunst, Germany) $1.45
Remazol liquid (ProChem) $1.50
Remazol powder (Batik Oetoro, Australia) $1.61
Rit All-purpose liquid (ritdyes.com) $1.86
Drimarene K (Batik Oetoro, Australia) $2.04
One Shot Acid (ProChem, 3 oz) $2.15
Rit All-Purpose powder (ritdyes.com) $2.29
Procion H liquid (Jacquard via Dharma) $2.35
Procion MX (Fibrecrafts, UK, 50 g) $2.47
Remazol liquid (Jacquard Red Label, 8 oz) $2.79
Disperse dyes for polyester (Aljo, half-ounce) $2.95
Dylon Cold (Procion MX) (Dick Blick, US, 5 g) $4.34
Tulip One-Step Fashion Dye (Procion MX type) (CreateforLess, 6 g) $4.49
DEKA L all-purpose dye (Fibrecrafts, UK, 10 g) $4.90
DEKA L all-purpose dye (Chicago Canvas, 1/3 oz) $4.95
Dylon Permanent (Drimerene K) (Joann.com, 50 g) $4.98
Jacquard Acid (avg of sun yellow, pink, and royal blue) (Dharma, 0.5 oz jars) $5.27
synthetic dye indigo (ProChem, 2 oz) $7.02
natural dye indigo (Dharma, 2 oz) $8.00
Procion H 5% paint (G&S Dye, Canada) $10.42
natural dye henna (Dharma) $12.00
natural dye alkanet (Dharma) $13.00
natural dye cochineal (Dharma) $13.20
natural dye cutch (Dharma) $14.00
natural dye annatto (Dharma) $17.00
natural dye brazilwood (Dharma) $23.40
natural dye madder (Dharma) $32.00
natural dye osage orange (Dharma) $34.00

 

(Abbreviations: g = grams; lb = pound or half a kilogram; oz = ounce or 29 grams. Price conversions for Fibrecrafts, Quilt & Textilekunst, Maiwa, G&S Dye, and Batik Oetoro are based on the US dollar's being equivalent to 0.51 GBP, 0.68 Euros, $1.00 Canadian dollars, and $1.11 Australian dollars.)
 

 
-Paula

cheapest MX type dye

The cheapest dye I ever bought was some Procion MX type navy blue (reactive blue 9 or navy blue MX-3R) that I ordered from Standard Dye in North Carolina for $9.60 per pound. That works out to 16 cents per pound of cotton fabric. It stayed good longer than most Procion MX dyes, too, at least six years if not longer. The minimum order was one pound per dye color, which is 454 grams.

(Not all of the dyes from Standard were such a good deal—another color I bought at the same time was $48 per pound—and they have a bad habit of substituting a dye mixture for the pure unmixed hue you order, and the dyes certainly will not always last as long. It was good luck to get such a fresh batch. Standard Dyes doesn't even carry reactive blue 9 these days, according to their web site.)

Dye is almost always much cheaper in larger jars. The same dye that costs $2 an ounce when purchased in two-ounce jars may cost just a little over $1 an ounce when purchased in one-pound jars from the same supplier. Don't buy more than you're likely to use in a year or two, in case it goes bad.

-Paula

mx prices

Paula,
I'm wondering how quality plays into pricing. I just noticed last week that Dharma claims they "reject dye that doesn't pass our 'solubility test'". I've not seen that claim by other companies. Is this significant? I just ordered dyes for the first time from Prochem because I now live on the east coast and shipping was cheaper. I noticed much more difficulty mixing their dyes. I'm curious,
Laura
www.lauragattonihandwovens.com

pretested MX dyes

At one time, Procion MX dyes were patented and made only by one dye manufacturer. They were introduced by ICI, which sold them to Zeneca, which sold them to BASF, which sold them to Dystar, or something like that. (I may have the order wrong.) During all this time, the dye companies' reliance on good customer relations probably outweighed any pressure to keep prices down, since there was no competition.

After the patents expired, a number of different factories around the world began making Procion MX dyes. Dystar now owns the Procion name, but they no longer make any Procion MX dyes, as far as I can find out, only other lines of Procion dyes, such as Procion H-E, and other kinds of dye. It was not, however, until a few years ago that quality problems began to arise. In particular, there were problems with lots of fuchsia dyes, which then caused the infamous red dot problem in premixed dye colors. There were particular problems when dye retailers relied upon their suppliers to provide dyes that were as soluble as they'd come to expect.

Dharma now tests the dyes that they buy before they make up their dye mixtures. So do PRO Chemical & Dye, and Rupert, Gibbon, & Spider (Jacquard Products); the latter two instituted their solubility testing earlier. If you get a truly bad batch of a particular dye color that refuses to dissolve in spite of correct technique, you can (if the dye was recently purchased), return it to your supplier for replacement.

Are all of your dye colors causing equally increased difficulties in dissolving, Laura, or just some?

I wonder if there's some other reason why you're having more troubles with dissolving dye than before you moved:

  • Is the water colder?

    Fiber reactive dye should never be dissolved in water that is very warm or hot, but water that is colder than 70°F might make it more difficult.

  • Are you trying some new dyes?

    ProChem's lemon yellow, which is yellow MX-4G, is more difficult to dissolve than yellow MX-8G (which is ProChem's sun yellow and Dharma's lemon yellow). Boysenberry is difficult to dissolve, too.

  • Are you pasting up your dye by adding a small amount of water and mixing it until smooth first, before you add the rest of your water?

  • Are you using salt in your recipes?

    Salt reduces dye solubility and should be added last, if you're using it, and not directly to the concentrated dye solutions.

Another possibility to try is adding a single small drop of a detergent to act as a surfactant when mixing up your dyes, either Synthrapol or hand dishwashing liquid. Also, letting the dye powder sit for a while, after you stirred it some, makes a big difference in how easy it is to dissolve. Stirring constantly is a little faster, but letting it rest means you can get by without nearly as much of your own time spent on stirring, total.

On the whole, I see an inverse relationship between dye quality and dye cost. The companies which do a lot of business in selling dyes tend to have fresher dyes than a local shop that may hold onto their stock for a long time before managing to sell it. Dyes which are packaged for novices and sold in grocery stores or general crafts shops are a lot more expensive than the dyes marketed by mail order for experienced hand dyers.

Is anyone else having more trouble dissolving dyes from one good cheap mail-order dye company than another?

-Paula

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