silken mysteries

The other day I dyed a pair of identical silk crepe scarves a yummy avocado. They went into the same dyebath and when I'd finished washing them out and drying them, they looked identical, and lovely.

But they were a little bright for wearing, so I decided to tone them down a little. To check they matched what they were intended to go with, I ironed one of them, since crepe catches the light a little differently if just dried on the line vs. being ironed out. The match was fine.

So into a new dyebath they both went. When I'd finished processing them, I noticed that the one I had ironed had taken up the pale black dye much less than the un-ironed one, which looked noticeably a tone darker. See this picture of the two of them (the un-ironed one is on the left, the ironed one on the right):

Why would ironing affect the silk this way? Is it because it was silk crepe (somehow its crepe got completely flattened by the iron? its surface was different now for the uptake of the dye?)? I was completely astounded (and frustrated, of course, since they were supposed to be a pair!).

Any thoughts?

--Pia in Seattle

silken mysteries

Pia, that is very surprising! I had no idea ironing could so affect how a piece of silk takes a dye.

Sorry to be of no help in understanding what happened.

avocado...

If I understood well, you were dyeing with fruit juices.

I have three possible thoughts on this what could happen to change to tone.

1) fruit juices can react little bit like pH-tester (are you sure, that both pieces have the same pH?

2) many dyes react to the deat, but the color changes back when the humidity is back.

3) what is the bottom surface of your iron made of? Iron? Plastics?

Jaja, I was using MX as acid

Jaja, I was using MX as acid dyes on silk, the avocado was the color description. If I had an avocado that color I'd eat it, not waste it by trying to dye something!

Yes, I thought perhaps the heat had done something to the crepe surface -- changed its form. Both scarves were room temperature when they went into the warm dyebath.

My iron is metal with a little bit of a slippery coating so it glides smoothly. Don't know what kind of slippery stuff it is.

One thought I had would be to take two other identical scarves made of some other silk weave -- a crepe de chine, or charmeuse, for example -- and do the same steps to see if ironing would make a difference with those weaves. I'm suspecting it's the crepe weave that's the issue. Like the difference between a big fluffy sweater that's been hung to dry vs. that same sweater if it were ironed dry, it would look all flat. That's all I can think of, that the iron smooshed the fibers flat and disallowed the availability of dye sites in those in-between places.

If I do that experiment, I will let you know...

--Pia

avocado

You can dye with avocados, but, although they are green, the result is an uninteresting dull dark brown that doesn't appeal to me at all. I've never wanted to try it.

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