flower in an indigo vat

I'm working with an indigo vat (pre-reduced) The color of it is fine and the results are fine, but I have a question about the flower.

Why do I need to remove it and put it back?

I seem to never get it out very gracefully and now there is hardly any flower left. Is this significant? Once you wreck it, as I have done, can you make a new one?

Is there a way to scoop it out a little less destructively?

I wish...

... that someone had answered this question, because I don't even really understand it but I'm fascinated! I've never used indigo dyes, but I've read about it and never heard of the need to place a flower in the vat. I'm dying of curiosity!

Judi Hurwitt
Approachable Art
http://approachable-art.blogspot.com

"flower" on an indigo vat

The "flower" on an indigo vat is the accumulation of bubbles on the top. You remove this so that you don't get it on your fabric when you dip it. You replace it afterwards because it does contain some indigo, so that you don't weaken the indigo vat for your next use.

The reason why you want to remove the "flower" before dipping is that the bubbles contain air, so they contain oxygen, which oxidizes indigo back from the soluble yellow form to the insoluble blue form. You want to dip your fabric in a nicely uniform dye bath, instead of having some parts of fabric affected differently by the bubbles and the oxidized indigo associated with them.

Maggie, I don't think you should worry about having lost the flower. If the vat is too blue, add more thiourea dioxide or sodium hydrosulfite; if the color is too weak, add more pre-reduced indigo.

-Paula

Thank you!!

I've always wanted to learn about indigo dyeing but it seems like an intimidating process!

Judi Hurwitt
Approachable Art
http://approachable-art.blogspot.com

Thank you, Paula. Of

Thank you, Paula. Of course that makes perfect sense. I just couldn't quite push my mind there. My vat, I decided, was too blue, although there is no crocking on the things I dyed in it. So I started messing around and now it's kind of...dark olive. Not clear. I feel like an alchemist. It got gray and watery, so I just added more of everything. It really perked up colorwise, but then it was too dark again, so I added a little more thiox. Now it's a little dark, but getting a bit more green than blue. Still not clear, though.

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